[Review] Patek Philippe 5200G Gondolo "blue dial"

Sep 29, 2015,14:53 PM
 

Gentlemen,

If you remember, I had a chance to handle the white dial 5200G earlier in the year (here: www.watchprosite.com ). This time, I could try the Patek Philippe 5200G blue dial version launched in 2013 (but which has just recently arrived in stores), and now I am able to share my thoughts and some pictures.





As a reminder, this watch has a 32.4 x 46.9 mm Gondolo case which protects the 28-20 square shaped caliber, which is visible through a sapphire case back.


CASE AND STYLE

The 5200G is a beautiful Art Deco style model with its famous stepped case sides. The Dauphine hands adequately complete the whole picture. In my opinion, Stick or Leaf hands would have been nonsense with this case sides' design.





I like the fact the bottom date subsidiary dial is large, as it helps in visually widening the watch: a little one would have made the case seem too long.





These rectangular watches have a strong character and help forging an interesting brand DNA. Recently, the new Patek Philippe 5124G (a three hands version) took a seat next to this reference.





The case, being in the same gold color as the white dial reference, is just as beautiful, of course. But the main differences, the white gold hands and markers with the blue metallic dial, make this watch a much more classical and dressy model even if the blue dial still appears unique and more surprising than a silvery one.

It is interesting to notice that, this time, the blue dial version looks a little more classical than the white one, due to the choice of the markers and hands' finish.

Of course, in this case, the "dressy" term I used has an original touch as it is not the kind of case we are used to wearing that much nowadays. I imagine this one beautifully matching a suit. Furthermore, what is perfect with the blue dial is that it will fit blue jeans too, thus going very well with a casual outfit and rolled-up sleeves.



Credit: Bruno.M1


I remember when I tried the white one that its dimensions looked already pretty good on my flat but 16cm wrist. With the blue dial, it should even look a little smaller.






MOVEMENT

With its 28 x 20 x 5 mm dimensions and a 28,800 vph frequency, the nice 28-20 REC 8J PS IRM C J caliber is a rectangular manually-wound movement, very well finished and beautifully designed, especially with those 3 bridges' alignment at the bottom.

This movement is equipped with the Spiromax spring made of Silinvar and has a significant and handy 8 days power reserve. Day and date indications with instantaneous jump are added to these useful features.





This caliber is not a simple one in consideration of this important power reserve and the jumping date feature. Hence, making a square caliber is also something which needs quite an amount of development work and is not a configuration we see in many other traditional brands' collections, especially regarding the low sale volumes compared to round shape cases.





It oozes very nice finishing quality and is, in that respect, a more interesting offer than other Patek manual winding movement in that segment (215 etc... not taking into account the pocket watches movement). At another price tag though.


THOUGHTS AND CONCLUSION

I wasn't really attracted by the white one before I could try it. However, I changed my mind completely and thought that this may even be my favorite combination from the 3 available versions (there is also a yellow gold 5200 in the catalogue). With that Rectangular Art Deco case and how the beveled sapphire glass is shaped, the darkened hands and markers together with the white dial make a beautifully looking combination IMHO.



Credit: Bruno.M1


This modern (darkened parts, red dot on the power reserve) and classical mix is working perfectly. That's why I finally came to ask myself if the white dial reference didn't reach the first position in the end, depending on what we are looking for of course. It's up to you!

Whichever model you may choose, one thing is sure with these two versions: I may not be used to wearing shaped watches (aside of my RM which remains very different) but this Gondolo looks really cool and elegant. It is not the kind of longer watch that would look too big and thus lack elegance on a normal wrist. You definitely feel that you're wearing something very special with a little vintage feeling but in a modern and new combination.





The 5200 case and style is definitely a convincing and original alternative to the Calatravas (also true for its manual wound movement) if you are looking for a refined and dressy watch and wish to wear a classical Patek Philippe.


So, in the end, which one would you prefer: the white or the blue dial?

Cheers, Mark





This message has been edited by Mark in Paris on 2015-10-09 04:39:49


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Blue dial is stunning

 
 By: alphabeta81 : September 29th, 2015-16:41
And I like the case as well My complaint is the white small hands, like for the small seconds, look cheap and hurt this version and the 5124 blue dial for me. I understand they are more readable with the contrast but they don\'t ooze quality like the rest... 

It is indeed a very interesting comincation of dial and case

 
 By: Mark in Paris : October 1st, 2015-04:31
as the latter is quite more classical and the blue dial looks more modern. As for the white hands, I guess we all have the little things we really don't like (I usually don't like brushed dials and blackened hands... just my "thing") I think you have an i... 

Thanks Mark,

 
 By: dr.kol : September 30th, 2015-02:40
5124G is closer to my hearth. This introduced watch is not very readable in real life and also a bit "messy". Not exactly a bargain either. Best, Kari

The 5124G is a very nice novelty

 
 By: Mark in Paris : October 2nd, 2015-09:35
The Gondolo case in a smaller dimension, with still the as beautiful shaped movement and blue dial is a great choice Kari, and more elegant IMHO. Cheers, Mark

Only Counts can say

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2015-05:47
that a Patek Philippe is too CHEAP! That was the best of the month. Next time I'll buy a Patek, I will tell that "this is nice but I think it is too cheap". Today I ordered my Xmas present and that was over 70k. Perhaps I could ask Patek if I could pay 10... 

Happy that it is amusing you :-)! A Patek is never "cheap" but sometines, RARELY, good

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : October 23rd, 2015-06:29
value for money. Like Patek's pilots watch that, being a WG watch (!), costs the same as an Aquanaut traveller watch in steel. I feel the same here too, as it does offer quite a lot, albeit the one short cut, but that is a lapsus that we overlook generous... 

Perhaps I should run for the Pilots'

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2015-06:33
My wife loves it. I have no opinion as I have not even seen it. Best, Kari

My Dear Count!

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2015-08:03
I'm not a Collector... I just happen to love nice watches and my favourite brand happens to be PP. I happen to have four on order, all platinum, but then I start to have what I would like to own. Till something Cool will be introduced. Best, Kari

Personally, for cars, watches, real estate etc... I don't look at the price but more

 
 By: Mark in Paris : October 23rd, 2015-09:18
the difference between the purchase price and the selling price, hence the amount of money I may loose or gain. If I buy 50K and loose 2 K it is something. If I buy 40K and loose 10K this is worse of course. I'm sure you think the same of course Kari but ... 

I agree. However,

 
 By: dr.kol : October 23rd, 2015-09:33
I have never gained by selling a watch. I have some which I could easily sell with profit, but I do not buy watches in order to gain something. Naturally, I need to take into account the expected "value" of my purchases because it is just fair to think ab... 

I have mixed feelings on this one

 
 By: P@trick@Belgium : October 1st, 2015-14:31
when it came out and I saw the first pictures I was bitten by the blue dial an rectangular case, a few months later I had the possibility to try it on during a showcase weekend at my AD, and then came the disapointment, ... I found it looking a bit to sma... 

This is trully a very appealing watch and dial but I think that...

 
 By: Mark in Paris : October 2nd, 2015-09:40
one has to be open to this style of shaped watches. However sometimes it is not enough! (and in love with the 5070 doesn't leave a lot of room to others either :p). Me it was the opposite: I wasn't that much into it from pics but liked it very much on my ... 

Thanks for sharing

 
 By: Dave G : October 1st, 2015-15:31
I do like this watch and tried on a white dial version a few months ago. I recently also handled one in blue, which I prefer. However, I find the price a bit high for what it is. I did acquire the 5124G, which follow a similar form earlier in the year. It... 

The 5124G presented this year is a great alternative

 
 By: Mark in Paris : October 6th, 2015-02:58
It looks very nice and more peaceful. The 5200's dial is more exciting to me but I understand the "more complicated" feeling, it is less something which remains discreet on the wrist. It is normal to be attracted by round watches but I must say I've been ... 

Thanks again Mark for the informative reviews!

 
 By: gensiulia : October 3rd, 2015-15:54
I am very happy for your PP Mod. election, you're doing a great job. Thanks! Regards, Chris

My pleasure Chris!

 
 By: Mark in Paris : October 3rd, 2015-16:17
Thank you very much for you warm comment, I appreciate it very much. Have a nice end of WE Chris Mark

Nice review Mark

 
 By: beejo : October 6th, 2015-07:05
One more informative article on a watch that I have never thought about because of the rectangular case,I think I have to get more open to different case shape. Thanks. Best, Ahmed

I followed the same path, not so long ago

 
 By: Mark in Paris : October 7th, 2015-15:27
I wasn't really attracted by shaped cases but once I went trying them by curiosity, I came to like them quite much and even conclude I could buy one. A lot of character for sure. Thank you very much for your nice comments! Cheers, Mark

Thank you Mark for putting the 5200G into context...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : October 6th, 2015-14:07
I have a weak spot for shaped watches, particularly if they carry complications - thus is much less easy to implement and often requires a lot of additional thinking to achieve a pleasant and harmonious result. Patek I guess has done very well with the 52...  

My pleasure Magnus, nice to hear about your view too

 
 By: Mark in Paris : October 8th, 2015-14:24
About shaped watches, I come to them quite clearly. Recently we had the new 5135 of Patrick and WatchLifer and I could experience in the last 6 months the two 5200G versions and the cushion-shaped 5940G. As you said the fact they are complicated bring muc... 

I see you like it quite much Moritz.

 
 By: Mark in Paris : October 23rd, 2015-09:22
As I said earlier, I wasn't into shaped case watches but slowly coming toward them. This is really one I could get too (with white dial though). Cheers, Mark

Beautiful Watch! And I'm am not P.P fan!

 
 By: farkbinder01212 : October 21st, 2015-17:15
Patek Phillipe is hit or miss with me. Their ludicrous prices and fan based manufactured "infallible" reputation are deal breakers. Pragmatic and firmly planted on the Terra Firma, I am. No matter how irrational the Horological Pursuits may be. Having bru... 

You seem to be liking shaped watches!

 
 By: Mark in Paris : October 22nd, 2015-02:15
The 5200 with its Gondolo case is indeed a very appealing and original one. It has a lot of character and I share you appeal for this reference. Thanks for sharing your opinion Harvey. Cheers, Mark

I am not sure if I have seen it sofar :-)

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : October 23rd, 2015-03:33
But I know that I have not tried it on! When it came out I was not fond of it due to the full calendar function "only". But same time later I find it quite an appealing watch at an appealing price point: 8 days power reserve and a calendar function for tw... 

It is indeed a model which is worth trying even once

 
 By: Mark in Paris : November 21st, 2015-03:19
When trying it, the word big didn't come to my mind a all I must say. It was more, maybe, is it too long compared to the wrist (top to bottom): for me it is "limit" ok. The blue indeed seems to be attracting more people. Thanks for your input (and sorry f... 

My pleasure! [nt]

 
 By: Mark in Paris : November 21st, 2015-03:20

You did a good job covering the 5200! But I do have one question...

 
 By: Ouroboros : November 21st, 2015-04:50
what is the general opinion on the use of ''faux'' bridges? It's an attractive timepiece with great attention to details - aesthetically and technically speaking - at a reasonable price (relatively speaking). The ''faux'' bridges offers the advantage of b... 

Thank you!

 
 By: Mark in Paris : November 22nd, 2015-11:02
Well, this is something I didn't care about that much and I thought that watchmakers tried to find ways to avoid torsions (because of the mainspring torque for instance, which must be quite important here with a 8 days PR). But I prefer when they are sepe...